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Mindy
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Hello, I thought I saw it on here but now I can't find it.
My wine just isn't very clear, I've racked it and racked it.
The first batches were foggy but I think it's because I used waaaay too much yeast, this time it's still foggy tho!
Is there anything I can do to help it clear up?
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Try using Bentonite. You shouldn't just add bentonite directly to your wine or must. Instead, you should hydrate it first. This can be a bit tricky if you don't do it correctly, you'll just end up with water and a glob of "mud." I use about half a cup of hot water, and then very slowly, as I'm stirring the water, pour the bentonite into the water. Stirring vigorously will help to ensure a more uniform mixture of bentonite and water, which can then be poured into your must or wine. Since your adding bentonite post fermentation it will eventually sink to the bottom with some particles, but possibly not all, so when it is added after the completion of fermentation, the wine should be stirred for several days in order to recirculate. 10 to 15 grams, or about 3 teaspoons for a 5 (6 US) gallon carboy of wine is probably just fine.
Good Luck.
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mindy how old is the wine and what is it some may take 3 months or longer
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Mindy
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blueberry and apple, they're both 3-4 months old.. i think the issue was i used waaaaay too much yeast.
i have strawberry, cherry and blueberry fermenting now, they're all very cloudy but I'm hopeful they'll clear up.
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bob1
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yea that is a little time they should start clearing on up. Did you add Pectic enzyme at begining of fermentation?
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ya i would wait a bit. to add something to clear it up is some extra chemical or work in my book.
im sure if u research it u will get your answer.
gl and cheers
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Is it a pectin haze? Sometimes if you just wait it out, things will clear. Wine likes to do it's thing. What all did you use in the recipe...sg readings?
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Mindy
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no, i have never used a pectic enzyme. should I be? I'm only making 1 gallon batches.
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sure u can add pectic enzyme on gallon batches. some recipes call for it.
all your musts are different fruits and cloudy so it does sound like the excessive yeast could be the problem.
make sure your wine is in a very quite dark place.
gl
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1/2 tsp pectin enzyme per gallon helps clear pectin haze. Have you tried the bentonite? Bentonite has a negative static charge which drags positive charged particulates to the bottom. Sparkolloid, which is diatomaceous earth and polysacharides, reduces proteins and adds brilliance. It works great as a follow up to the bentonite.
For each gallon use 1 level teaspoon and 3 ounces of water in a saucepan, bring to a simmer or 30 minutes-stir often don't allow mixture to burn-add more water if necessary.
Add mixture to wine while it is still hot. Add very SLOWLY and STIR until the mixture is blended throughout the wine. Let the wine set for 2-4 weeks or until it has cleared. Siphon off, leaving sediment behind.
Another option is Isinglass...1/8 teaspoon per gallon.
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Mindy
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wow, you sure know your stuff!
thanks for the advice, if these three batches don't clear up I'll try that.
Is it ok to try it after i rack it a time or two?
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Mindy dont just start racking but I would add the pectic enzyme in at next racking. You should be in the middle of a racking right now Dgreen needs to chime in on this. I dont see why you cant add it now if one was careful. But to be safe wait another month or two . If it dosn,t clear add it at that racking.Keep your racking now at 2 - 3 month intervals. You may need an extra racking the idea is to try to do it in 3 or 4.
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Last Edit: 2010/02/05 16:51 By bob1.
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Believe it or not, isinglass work better if you leave the sediment behind and just stir it in. Yes, you can try, but OZWino will probably say you are overhandling the wine... Sounds like you have your hands full already (with the yeast)!Keep an eye on it-watch the sediment as the yeast dies, rack and wait. Apple and pear wines sometimes have a pectin haze that if you didn't use some form of pectin enzyme it can be stubborn to clear. Patience and waiting, darling.
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Mindy-
If your wine is still fermenting, even if it's fermenting a little, it will stay cloudy. Give it some more time. Destinyrae is right the isinglass works well but it will drop a ton of color out of the wine. Winenot had a better idea with the bentonite. Time is still going to be your best clarifier.. well time and gravity that is. If you decide to use bentonite, mix it up very very well in BOILING water or hot distilled water. You do not want to introduce oxygen to the wine, and the heat helps the bentonite to ionize. This is what makes it work, it has a positive charge and attracts the particles in the wine, and when they clump up they fall to the bottom. Definitely wait until the wine is COMPLETELY done fermenting to rack the wine off the lees, and then I would consider waiting a month or two before you decide to add any finings of any kind IE bentonite or isinglass. Add sulfite when you rack it once it's done fermenting, and if you plan on adding potassium sorbate add it at the same time.
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Oh and if you do decide on bentonite PM me and I will talk you through it, but basically you want to put it in a strong bottle with some bentonite and shake the crap out of it until its a slurry, then let it cool down overnight before you add it.
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Mindy
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got it, thanks guys!
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