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Posted 5 Years, 2 Months ago #1
A couple weeks ago I aquired a wooden gift box of Dom Perignon Champaign that state Recently Disgorged. The three vintages inside are 1964, 1975 and 1978.
On most Recently Discorged Champaignes such as Bollinger RD they show the date of the RD on the back label. Dom did not.
Does anyone have an idea as to how I might be able to locate. I have tried to email the producer but have not received an answer.
Also...what would I expect from Aged Champaigne. I typically drink Krug NV as my special occasion Champaigne or Roderer for everyday...Sonoma or France. Gruet and Schraumsburg are also favorites for everyday.
I would have thought this to be over the hill....inside the box is a nicely done pamphlet that Dom Peridnon produced called the Vintage Collection with food pairing suggestions for each year of these items.
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Posted 1 Year, 3 Months ago #2
The 1975 vintage and the 1978 were just released to the public about four to five years ago, according to Wine Spectator. As far as the 1964, I believe I read in the same article that it was released five years past, which would make it, "in the bottle" for around ten years now. I think you have a treasure on your hands.
The 1975 is valued at $395.00 presently.
The 1978 is valued at $500.00
There were two 1964 versions released,
1964 Moet Chandon Dom Perignon Champagne Blend $899.00 &
1964 Dom Perignon $750.00(see http://www.winezap.com/search/searchResults.cfm )

Moet Chandon has released many different champagnes of the same vintage, and the prices could be very different. Just as the size of the bottle can.
Also, just because the champagne is vintage or older doesn't make it more valuable.

For example (as you will see in the link above), the potential of you having one of the two 1964's, is different in price, depending on what it is. Also, look at the 1966's; there are three releases (according to the link; there could be more), and the cost rages from $1,199.00, $1,695.00 and $950.00, each .750L.

Just do as I did to answer your question; research. Welcome to the real purpose of the Internet.

What you have to find out now is the "Drink or Hold" dates. We have a warehouse in my area that has or can order ANY wine or champagne or sparkling wine (if the champagne was NOT made in the Champagne region of France, IT CANNOT be called Champagne, but a Sparkling Wine) in the world. When you deal with a warehouse of this sort, you are usually getting the best price as well, and the best knowledge. They can tell you any and all information on any bottle. They also happen to have a huge selection of Beer, cigars, and liquor. But those are small areas, compared. All wines are categories by varieties. Cabernets, Malbec, Merlots, Pinots, and the rest. Here is a tip. ANYTHING 2005 is excellent. But many you have to hold onto. I happen to have “2005 Lanessan Bordeaux Blend - Cru Bourgeois France”, with a drink date of 2015-2035. I have others that are 2007-2025, or 2007-2008. This is very important. With the database I use, linked to the net, I can also enter “consumed”. I drank a wine without checking on the drink date (bought it and drank it that night). When I put it in the database and marked it “consumed”, the response back was that I drank it five years to soon. As with the dates I’ve showed you of my collection, holding it to long can also have a negative effect on you wines.

Cheers.
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Posted 1 Year, 3 Months ago #3
PeterM. welcome to the forum I am happy you joined us.

Also, thank you for the above info, very interesting
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Posted 1 Year, 1 Month ago #4
Glad to be here.
If anyone who does not have access to
1. Notes
2. Drink/hold
3. Scores

Please let me know if you need these. I get this information from several places; these places, when comparing the above specifics are almost identical. AND they come from reputable tasters/testers in the WORLD. One name, everyone who loves wine should know, is Robert Parker. One of the leading knowledge bases in the world.

IF you submit wines for info, please submit them in this way:

2005, Kendall-Jackson Grand Reserve, Cabernet Sauvignon - Sonoma County.

This makes it easier for me to assist those who may want to know if they should drink now or hold for a few years.

NEVER, NEVER LET A BOTTLE BE STORED STANDING UP.
If you are going to cellar wines, either use the usual wooden, or other wine shelvings, WITH THE WINE/CHAMPAGNE LAYING ON ITS SIDE. Or if you have a small stand that can add to a rooms decore, you may find Iron pieces, where the bottle goes into its slip upside down, curving nicely towards the ground (usually wines you will be drinking within a year). The point to all of this is ALWAYS HAVE THE CORK IN THE WINE INSIDE THE BOTTLE!!
Back to cellering wine... wine comes in 6-12 per case. Champagne... usually 6 per case. If you are storing these wines in a celler (or environment controlled walk in close, BIG, which are mostlikely humidity controlled anyways, just by thefact that they have an A/C ven inside the closet... the closer to the vent, the better.(negotiate room for your cases of wines with the wife, )
Trying to get BACK to storing cases... open the case and put the bottles back UPSIDE DOWN. You can label the bottom of the bottle with a simple label maker. Simple coding:
B-3-4-91--98-15 = B-Bought, "3-4-91", date purchased, "--98-15" drink dates are 1998 to 2015.
Or any coding you might come up with. The point is to NOT get lost in the many bottles you may have. All of the sudden, one day, you might find a beautiful Claret that if four years over due drinking. DON'T THROW IT AWAY!, YOU MIGHT HAVE A WONDRFULL BOTTLE ON YOUR HANDS, OR VINAGER.
Unless you have a few of the same AND cared for the same, you won't have a saleable/auctionable wine(which could bring in a pretty penny or acalades from youer dinning guest), withought one bottle being opened IN FRONT of the potential buyer. Remember, you held on to it four years past the drink date. Yes, wine tasters DO make mistakes, but tryly, can you project what Mother-Nature does? Some do, and very well, but ALWAY try to go with the expert. If I have drunk a wine the LAST years it was supposed to bwe drunk, and it was very, very good, I may let it cellar for one more year. AND depending how many I have, I may do it again the next year, BUT this does not mean that I'v let 24 bottles go past their prime, that is a huge, probably lost gabble.
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